Problems Persist For Saudi Women Married To Non-Saudis

PROBLEMS PERSIST FOR SAUDI WOMEN MARRIED TO NON-SAUDIS
Arab News

RIYADH, 19 January 2006 — It is a problem that is not going away and one which often has some very unpleasant consequences. It is Saudi women married to non-Saudi men. Such marriages often generate complications that slowly destroy the marriage and, if there are children, they become the innocent victims.

Amal, a Saudi teacher, was married to a non-Saudi man for more than 13 years. She finally decided to seek a divorce because of the many problems they faced. He decided not to remain in Saudi Arabia and to take their children with him.

“I would never have agreed for him to take my children away but because he is not Saudi, they do not have Saudi citizenship. If they were Saudis, I would have been able to prevent him from taking them.”

She said the children of a Saudi mother should have Saudi nationality just as the children of a Saudi man do. When the children are legally able to make a decision, they can decide which nationality to take. She also believes that the name of a non-Saudi husband should be recorded so that he cannot leave the country without his wife’s knowledge.

Abeer, another Saudi married to a non-Saudi, said that she wanted to include her children on her passport. After long and complicated bureaucratic battles and time-consuming procedures, she was able to do so at last. But when the passport expired and she wanted to renew it, the new passport did not include her children names.

“A Saudi man can have his children on his passport and his wife can be given Saudi nationality after the birth of their child. Why this discrimination?” she asked.

Abeer said that under existing law, Saudi mothers were unable to protect the rights of their children.

Maha, whose husband is a non-Saudi, spoke about some problems that affect her marriage life. She said that every time she and her husband want to travel, he must bring permission from his sponsor that he is allowed to travel and that the permission must be attested to and stamped with a seal by the chamber of commerce. They have experienced situations that are completely absurd.

She explained, “I was traveling by bus with my husband to a neighboring country. The passport officials refused to allow me to leave the country, saying that I did not have my father’s permission. I told them that my husband was with me but they refused to acknowledge him as my husband,” she said.

In the end, she had to cancel the trip and return to Riyadh, promising to bring their marriage certificate in future.

Badreya, a Saudi teacher, spoke about the problems she encountered after she married a non-Saudi. She said that her husband was unable to support the family here because of his low salary and that she consequently had to bear the bulk of the financial burdens. “I can barely support my family because I have to pay SR600 for every one of my children to renew their iqamas. I think the government should exclude Saudi mothers from renewing their children’s iqamas and give them Saudi nationality,” she said.

Nadeya, a hospital employee, has four daughters by a foreign husband who has now left her. Now she fears that her death will leave her children in a terrible limbo. “I watched them grow up, fully aware they have no future here because they are not Saudi. I wonder how they would live if I died. They cannot get my retirement salary after I die because they are not Saudis. I wish the government would review our case and grant my daughters Saudi nationality,” said Nadeya.

INTERESTING LETTERS TO THE ARAB NEWS EDITOR IN RESPONSE TO THE ABOVE ARTICLE

Marriage to Non-Saudis

Rashid Alhomaid, Tucson, Arizona, US published 22 January 2006: The report “Problems Persist for Saudi Women Married to Non-Saudis” (Jan. 19) tells the tragic story of many women whose lives have become a constant pain because of the inability of our bureaucracy to deal with human problems in a humane manner. At least now, those in authority must move decisively to put an end to such unnecessary suffering. All people born in Saudi Arabia should be given Saudi nationality. The children referred to in the report are Saudis by birth and belong in the Kingdom. Further, there should be a law providing that any child, with one Saudi parent — either father or mother — should be granted Saudi citizenship as a matter of right.

Saudi women are not a minority in our society; they outnumber men and should be treated equally in all family laws. When such discriminatory laws exist, we cannot blame anyone who believes that those laws were made as a way of punishing Saudi women for marrying non-Saudis. Islam gives Muslim men and women the right to marry any Muslim, regardless of nationality. It is about time that the government took this issue seriously and issued a law that protected all its citizens, Another way to solve the problem would be to give Saudi citizenship to anyone who marries a Saudi man or woman. That is the law in many countries.

Marriage to Non-Saudis [2]

Massoud S.K., Yanbu published 22 January 2006: Racism is the word that comes to mind when we read or hear about such laws and discriminatory practices. The hurt is compounded when one juxtaposes this with the fact that Islam is the cornerstone of Saudi Arabia’s ethos. That is why it is very depressing to know that this kind of racism is practiced here and that legitimately married couples can be put to so much mental and emotional torture just because a Saudi woman has a foreigner for a husband. The husband’s immense love and care for his wife and children and also to all her relatives matters very little here. What fear or concern lies behind this? Is it the fear that Saudi Arabia’s ethnic makeup will be destroyed if such marriages are encouraged and if children from such marriages are recognized as Saudi citizens?

Not only do such fears smack of racism but they also betray the sheer ignorance and arrogance of those who perpetuate such notions. And most importantly, such people actually work against the very spirit and message of Islam. It is time the authorities came out with bold measures to erase such notions from society and ushered in true brotherhood under Islam.

Marriage to Non-Saudis [3]

Hadi Al-Wadie, Riyadh published 22 January 2006: I was surprised to learn of the problems that Saudi women who married non-Saudis have to face with regard to the custody of their children. However, my belief is that the women who agreed to marry people outside their country should bear the full responsibility for this. Such marriages should never ever be approved by the government and these Saudi women should understand that what they are suffering is the natural result of their action. No one can help them. All governments, anywhere the world, have their own rules and regulations and we, in this country, also have them. All know what they are, and that includes these women. They should have learned from the experiences of others in the same condition who had the same problems. I believe that these women are not originally Saudis. We don’t want to put more on the government’s shoulders. Clearly, these foreign husbands married these women with some objectives. They are not innocent victims.

However, there are innocent victims in this case — the children. I appeal to the government to find a solution to their problems and to stand strongly against such marriages in future. We have enough of our own problems to worry about; let us not take upon ourselves the problems of other countries.

BELOW IS A MORE LENGTHY RESPONSE TO THE SAME ARTICLE (Note that it has been almost three years since this brother posted his comments on Middle East Information Center’s website and nobody posted in response to his challenge of proving him wrong. I myself have yet to receive an answer from anyone with daleel that shows where Allah ta’ala and His Prophet (peace be upon him) instructed people from different nations to only marry within their tribes or get approval from the government/ruler first before marrying outside of their tribe. Tara Umm Omar)

I CHALLENGE MY BROTHERS TO PROVE ME WRONG
From: Muhammad Yusuf AbdulAziz
E-Mal: morris@Qualitynet.net
01/26/06 01:27 PM

I Challenge my brothers to prove me wrong
(I’m Not say Allah Brothers and Sisiters)

La ilaha illallah, Muhammad-ur-Rasul-Allah

As Salaamu Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakaatuhu

With reference to Arab News report on January 19’2006 (Problems Persist for Saudi Women Married to Non-Saudis). I have to say this problem persist for three reason’s ‘ 1.Arrogant 2. Ignorance 3. Hypocrisy,
I have asked mean friends question do Saudi-men have same problems marrying to Non-Saudi women.
Its a unpleasant consequences when marriage’s are destroy for arrogant, ignorance and hypocrisy.

The Quran Provides clear-cut evidence that women iscompletely Equated with man in the sight of Allah in terms of her rights and responsibilities then why do you fail to give her rights to marry who she like.

The Custodian of The Two Holy Mosques King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz al-Saud is one Pious Muslims in Saudi Arabia that speak with action when it come to Islam. King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz al-Saud speak from his heart a good (Muslim & King) that’s trying very hard to bring Muslim Ummah together his problem with parties in his government that looking out for their self advisor’s that’s look to follow path 1. Arrogance 2. Ignorance and 3. Hypocrisy from their actions I’m not say all them. I pray to Allah each night for The Custodian of The Two Holy Mosques King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz al-Saud to receive his guides from Allah to lead Muslim Ummah to be once again strong like doing days Prophet Muhammad Sallallaho Alaihi wasallam.

O’ Allah’ Please keep The Custodian of The Two Holy Mosque safe and in good health ’ O’ Allah help and guild The Custodian of The Two Holy Mosque, O’ Allah Protect The Custodian of The Two Holy Mosque from all evil in this world O’ Allah protect The Custodian of The Two Holy Mosque from the evil of Iblis O’ Allah protect The Custodian of the Two Holy Mosque from non believers “O Allah protect The Custodian of the Two Holy Mosque King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz al-Saud.

If advisor’s and government officials , Saudi brothers and sisters has knowledge of and certainty in the shahadah, why they act in this manner when you state that you have certainty in the shahadah this must followed by acceptance, with the tongue and heart, of whatever that shahadah implies. Whoever refuses to accept the shahadah and its implications, even if he knows that it is true and certain about its truth, than he is a disbeliever. This refusal to accept is sometimes due to pride, envy or other reasons. In any case, the shahadah is not a true shahadah without its unconditional acceptance. The scholars all talk about this condition as a general condition in the way that I have just stated. However, there is also a more detailed aspect that we must all be aware of. The believer accepts whatever the implications of the shahadah are. This also means that he believes in whatever is stated in the Qur’aan or stated by the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam, without any right to choose what he wants to believe and what he wants to reject. Allaah says in the Qur’aan,

“Do you believe in part of the book and reject part of it? And what is the reward of those who do so save ignominy in the life of the world, and on the Day of Resurrection they will be consigned to the most grievous doom” (al-Baqara : 85).

I have to say this because Prophet Muhammad sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam didn’t destroy marriage’s. Prophet Muhammad sallallaahu ‘alaghi wa sallam said in last sermon” All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab, nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over a black, nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action.

The Custodian of The Two Holy Mosque King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz al-Saud in his statement at opening OIC summit in Makkah made a statement from Hadith “ Allah will never change situation of any people until they first change themselves.

Each day I pray for my brothers and sisters in Saudi Arabia. I pray each day for my brothers and sisters in and around Saudi Arabia because we look to them as Arab’s born to Islam be a good Image real Islam, We Western Muslim’s had look to them as Muslim’s to be example real Islam once again, now its big stock to see Arrogance, Ignorance, and Hypocrisy when Islam come from there country.

Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W.) was man Gentle and Kind his heart always inclined to be gracious. Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W. ) asked people to shun notions of racial, family or any other form superiority based on mundane things and said that righteousness alone was the criterion of one’s superiority over another.

I have receive mean e-mail’s from brothers and sisters from United States, to Europe to Japan, all way to Australia asking me to forgive my brothers in Saudi Arabia, (I’m Sorry) I can’t Allah will Judge them on day judgment they don’t remember that “ Allah has made the relationship of the Muslim to a Muslim more sacred than any relationship, even that of blood, culture or nation. He has united us into one Ummah, the Muslim Ummah, and has made us responsible for each other. The relationship between the Muslims is a sacred one:

Allah have said”

“ Today we have forgotten you as you forgot the meeting of this your day. Your refuge is the Fire and you have no helpers. That is because you made a mockery of Allah’s Signs and the life of the world deluded you.” Therefore, today they will not get out of it. They will not be able to appease Allah. (Surat al-Jathiyya:34-35). They Remain in Hell For all Eternity

This verses make it clear that those who are arrogant towards Allah will remain in Hell for all eternity. And, the reason why they were sent to Hell is precisely for their arrogance. Allah repays them with eternal fire of Hell:

As for those who deny Our Signs and are arrogant regarding them, the Gates of Heaven will not be opened for them, and they will not enter Paradise until a camel goes through a needle’s eye. That is how we repay the evildoers (Surat al-A’ raf:40)

We now see OIC Chief Prof. Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu issue statement to denounce publication of blasphemous and insulting caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH&HF) in the Norwegian newspaper (Magazinet). The Secretary-General have to understand before he can act in strong way he need 1.5 Billion Muslim’s with him.

Secretary-General need to come out his office in Jeddah and speak with men and woman on street how they feel about OIC. We see all talk and no action when it come to Islam you have to first clean you home before you can branch out.

Western Newspaper’s like Danish daily and Norwegian newspaper (Magazinet) have mean readers just like Media Stations through out West that look at actions of born Muslim’s. How can Prof Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu make request for major newspaper to take you serious when thy see only talk when it come to following words Prophet Muhammad S.A.W. I will say this once again its not Western Media that’s destroying Islam its Muslim with their Arrogant, Ignorance, Hypocrisy, Lying, Backbiting, and Discrimination etc, etc..

My Challenge to my brothers to prove me wrong :

1. Show me where Prophet Muhammad s.a.w. (PBUH&HF) destroy marriage’s.
2. Show me where Prophet Muhammad s.a.w. (PBUH&HF) disapproval marriage’s between Non- Saudi and Saudi.
3. Show me this Hadith is wrong and where its wrong
Ibn Abbas reported that a girl came to the Messenger of God, Muhammad (P.), and she reported that her father had forced her to marry without her consent. The Messenger of God gave her the choice . . . (between accepting the marriage or invalidating it). (Ibn Hanbal No. 2469). In another version, the girl said: “Actually I accept this marriage but I wanted to let women know that parents have no right (to force a husband on them)” (Ibn Maja, No. 1873).
4. Show me where color matter to Prophet Muhammad s.a.w.

Consequences of violating women’s rights

The consequence of even a small unfairness concerning the rights of others is so serious that the rewards of the offender’s arduous and valuable acts of worship and good deeds will be transferred to the account of the wronged.

Should his good deeds be insufficient for full compensation, the burden of the bad deeds which the oppressed might have performed will be thrust upon the account of the oppressor. It is narrated in the sayings of the Prophet (sallallaho alaihi wasallam) that the real pauper is the one who, despite having performed an abundance of good deeds, will be impoverished by his reward being snatched away due to his violation of the rights of others. This is a point of grave concern and fear. May Allah help us in overcoming the evil incitements of our lower soul.

Jazakum Allah Khayran

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Tara Umm Omar

American married to a Saudi.

2 thoughts on “Problems Persist For Saudi Women Married To Non-Saudis”

  1. >This is just seems so wrong and so unfair. If a Saudi woman gives birth, the baby obviously came from her. Yet if the father is a Saudi, the paternity is not questioned? I just don’t understand the discrimination in these cases. So unfair to the Saudi women!

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  2. >Susie,I really don’t think they thought that far when making such a law. If they made this law to stop at least ONE problem, it spawned so many other problems. What are the solutions for those? Did they take them into consideration when drafting the law? It doesn’t seem like it! The aspect of it that I don’t understand is why do they want the children from these relationships to suffer? Because people are gonna marry who they want anyway and one purpose of marriage is procreation. These children from Saudi mothers have half Saudi blood coursing through their veins. Doesn’t that matter? Where is their empathy for these innocent children?

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